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10 June 2007 @ 01:48 pm
Pecularities of State Relocation  
* My car's officially a PA resident again, and my driver's license is taken care of, too. It's weird- when I went to NY, they had DMVs there that would take care of everything at once, license and registration. In PA, you have to go to two places: a driver's license center, and then AAA for anything else. So I ended up becoming a AAA member too; just had to throw an extra $12 in on top of all the other fees they charged, heh.

PA let me keep my NY driver's license after they invalidated it by punching a hole through the expiration date. It apparently counts as an alternate form of ID, should I ever need it. When I went to NY, they made me surrender my PA driver's license, which teed me off because I actually liked my picture on that one. The PA license is like a credit card. Under-21 licenses are oriented vertically, everyone else's are oriented horizontally. It has a magnetic stripe on the back that beer/liquor stores will swipe for validation. The NY license is flimsy laminated card stock that bends easily.

PA's registration is only good for one year. NY's was good for two. Gotta remember the difference.

PA let me keep my old license plate when I moved to NY, which I used as decoration in my apartment with Angel and Cheryl. Having moved back to PA, NY wants me to mail back my NY plates via certified mail. After that, they'll give me a form/receipt, and I have to give that to my insurance provider before they'll let me adjust my rates for the new state. ("Plate" vs. "plates:" PA only gives you one plate, NY gives you two. So now I have this empty front-mount plate bracket on my car, which I'm not sure what I'll do with yet.) Weird.

* NY has ridonkulous gun laws. PA does not. The only thing you need a permit for in PA is to carry/transport a concealed weapon, and it's easy to get: two IDs, two non-family references, and a fee; and unless they find evidence of you committing crimes or being a drunk or something, the permit's yours. I'm planning to apply for mine soon- Remy will too, once he gets a PA-issued ID (long story there)- and once things calm down a bit, we'll look into finding a shooting range, getting a pistol, etc.

* There's beer in the grocery stores in NY. In PA, you have to go to special beer distributors, and you have to buy beer by the case. It used to be weird to see beer in the grocery store; now it's weird not to see it.
K: little poniesaurra_sing on June 10th, 2007 06:14 pm (UTC)
god it's so funny seeing youy post stuff about moving to pa when i'm doing so saturday.

I was wondering what to do with the holes in the front of my car too. lolol. when I go to toyota next time I might ask them if they have something for the inside of the mount I could buy/have/whatever.

my mom works for the dmv so i'm hoping sending her the plates to bring to work will be okay lol

I've already gotten used to the beer thing and I haven't even moved yet! lolol. Last time I was there though I found out how much you could buy at once. But the place I went to getsa around it by letting you buy everything separately and put it in your car before continuing.

Do you know where Mr. Small's in Millvale is? I have a concert there the 21st and am already dreading parking. lol
Miusheri: girmiusheri on June 10th, 2007 06:53 pm (UTC)
Good luck with your move! =D One thing to keep in mind: PA wants proof of PA insurance before you can get your PA registration, but insurance companies want you to complete your registration before they'll issue insurance for that state. Very screwed up! What you can do, though, is call your insurance company and have them send you ID cards that have Pennsylvania at the top instead of New York. They can even fax them, so you don't have to do this too far in advance. I just wouldn't want you to end up where I did- getting to AAA and not having the PA insurance cards they were looking for, heh!

Unfortunately, I don't know Millvale terribly well, but it is pretty close to Shadyside if you wanted to stop by and say hi afterward! I hear you about parking- 'swhy I'm thrilled our apartment has its own parking space, heh! ^_^
K: ivyaurra_sing on June 10th, 2007 07:04 pm (UTC)
I CAN'T parallel park, it's impossible for me :-/ So definitely afraid of the parking situation. It will probably be pretty late when we get out, but if there is time, TOTALLY. :)

Ugggg thanks for the warning! So pa wants proof of insurance before registration but insurance wants registration before insurance. lololol dear lord. Luckily Bri has been through all of this too lol.
mqstout on June 11th, 2007 10:54 am (UTC)
Nearly all of the parking around Mr Smalls will be parallel parking in the neighborhood. It's a decent venue; It's the best we have in Pittsburgh anymore (since nearly all the other small venues closed).
Kaurra_sing on June 11th, 2007 07:09 pm (UTC)
Crap. Any advice? :-/ When I say I can't parallel I really really mean it. lol.
The Perfidious One, amethyst_hunter: Get me OUT of Florida!amethyst_hunter on June 11th, 2007 04:48 am (UTC)
Heh. I'll have to relearn everything once I get back to Illinois as well. I've adjusted to dealing with the peculiarities down here. :p

FL only gives you one license plate too; I'd like to keep mine because it's got a cougar picture on it (as an aside, purchase funds from the cougar plates go towards Florida panther conservation, which was one of the reasons I picked that design). I hope they'll also let me keep my FL driver's license; wankers took away my IL one when I got that changed over to FL (reason being is that there is a huge market for DL fraud with truck drivers, so they confiscate old ID so you can't use it).

It will be nice not being anally buttsecksored for car insurance, however: IL insurance cost about $200 - 250 for my car; FL, $500. However, IL likes to get you on the renewal sticker fees (starting at $78). Even so, that's not as ass-rammingly sore as the insurance bullshit.

Alcohol is available damn near everywhere in FL to the point where you almost expect to see them pimping it on street corners. I suppose when you have no place to go and have to sit inside your house baking from the heat (assuming you're one of the unfortunates without air cond), the only thing you can do to entertain yourself is to drink yourself into a stupor or go fishing (or do both at the same time, which isn't an uncommon occurrence!). IL mainly has alcohol relegated to liquor stores/restaurants/pubs.

You can own guns in IL, but you have the 7-day wait period before being allowed to buy one while they run a background on you, and as far as I know there is no legal permit to carry a concealed (which FL *does* have, and it's causing a bit of controversy as they debate whether or not employees should be allowed to bring their guns to work and/or store them in their vehicles).
mqstout on June 11th, 2007 10:51 am (UTC)
Beer: Go to the corner of Friendship and St Clair. (sharpedgebeer.com)
mqstout on June 11th, 2007 10:52 am (UTC)
It's technically Shadyside, though the border of it.