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Miusheri
miusheri
27 March 2007 @ 04:34 pm
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Pope Benedict XVI: Hell is real! It's really really real! Here's all my scientific evid- er, I mean, it's real 'cause I say so! Keep heaping money on the Church and keep us relevant or you're going there! HELLFIRE! BRIMSTONE! BOOGEY MAN WITH HORNS!

Okay, okay, the real quote.

Pope Benedict XVI: "[Hell] really exists and is eternal, even if nobody talks about it much any more."

Wait a minute...

Pope John Paul II: "Rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy."


I thought both of these guys were infallible- i.e., never wrong. One "infallible" dude said Hell's not really a place, the other "infallible" dude says it really is a place. What gives? How is a rational human being supposed to reconcile direct contradictions like this?



Ohh, I see. JP2 just never made it to Michigan.

Here's a better answer. You want rational thinking and reasoning? Get the hell away from religion.
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How Random Babbling Becomes Corporate Policy: Religiont3knomanser on March 27th, 2007 10:13 pm (UTC)
Both Popes are right, and it's just God's ineffable plan. There's something "f-ed" anyway.
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Miusheri: gotevil?miusheri on March 28th, 2007 12:11 am (UTC)
*snort* With the message, "OMG you totally called it!!" XD
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The Perfidious One, amethyst_hunter: Ignignokt digital ruleramethyst_hunter on March 28th, 2007 01:56 am (UTC)
Get the hell away from religion.

Fucking a-men, sister. All religion seems to want to do anymore is basically argue over whose god's dick is bigger.
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Miusheri: gotevil?miusheri on March 28th, 2007 01:59 pm (UTC)
More or less! That's at least 25% of the rationale behind the Iraq War. What's sad is that in that case, they're arguing over the same frickin' god. Other parts of the rationale include a) the Bush/Hussein vendetta; b) profit profit profit; c) steady source of blood and agony to keep Darth Cheney's fuel cell powered.
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Miusherimiusheri on March 28th, 2007 02:00 pm (UTC)
On a less snarky note, I've been thinking about you and hoping things have been getting better for you. *hugs*
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Chia de Boskchiasmushf on March 28th, 2007 03:46 am (UTC)
They're only infallible ex cathedra. Neither of those were ex cathedra statements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_cathedra#Instances_of_papal_infallibility

Now, the question then becomes why the Pope doesn't always speak ex cathedra. But I'm not Catholic, so it's not really my problem...
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How Random Babbling Becomes Corporate Policy: Religiont3knomanser on March 28th, 2007 01:18 pm (UTC)
So, the Pope is only infallible when he says he is and people agree with him?

Wow.
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Chia de Boskchiasmushf on March 28th, 2007 01:31 pm (UTC)
Yeah. Way more limited than people often consider it to be.
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How Random Babbling Becomes Corporate Policy: Religiont3knomanser on March 28th, 2007 01:33 pm (UTC)
With way more weasel room. "That time I was wrong? Yeah, no, I wasn't in 'infallible mode' then. Oh, and this dramatic reversal in church policy? Yep, still running in 'fallible mode'. Which means I might be wrong right now. In fact, because I'm in 'fallible mode' right now, I might even be wrong about being in 'fallible mode'! I could possibly be running in 'infallible mode' and not even know it because I'm in 'fallible mode'! DO WHAT I SAY!!!!11!11!one."
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